When we find Julie Goldman and Chris Clements of Motto Pictures in a Sundance hotel lobby, they’re doing what they do—sharing hugs and encouragement with the Oscar-nominated team from THE PERFECT NEIGHBOR. They’re the kind of producers who root hard for everybody in the field while juggling 8-10 projects of their own. 

Julie and Chris know everyone—and they champion longtime friends and newcomers to docmaking alike. When we asked Julie to walk with us last year at SXSW, she was a quick and easy “YES,” but it took til Sundance for us all to be in the same place at the same time. And here we are. Keith knows the Motto Pictures folks from the 2016-2017 awards campaign when they were shepherding both LIFE, ANIMATED and WEINER. Ben’s lucky enough to be in business with Motto on his upcoming DR. DANTE project. So we’ve all spent time together, and this time we’re bringing you along for a winding view into Chris & Julie’s work philosophies and partnership—they’re married business partners who each offer different aspects to the films they produce.

We’re away from the hubbub of Main Street and onto the nature trail spotting birds, murals, tunnels, and trees, all while digging into the Motto approach: how they financed their first feature on maxed-out credit cards at Brooklyn College, why they Zoom into shoots they can't attend, and how they handle story development and adaptation, including seeing a doc become a scripted comedy in partnership with Mike Schur and Ted Danson. Hear how Julie went from memorizing international phone prefixes at First Run Features to spotting potential in filmmakers before they see it themselves; and Chris drops a theory on why AI will never replace human storytelling—"it doesn't understand doubt.” Join us as we stumble into a public art garden where we can't resist trying our hand at live-scoring the walk with some sculptural instruments. And we land on a question that these walks keep coming back to: where does documentary go from here? 

Plus: love for Errol Morris and Barbara Kopple, Owen Suskind's flawless post-screening routine, the beauty of sad bells echoing through a Park City tunnel, and the tuxedo pigeon is back (still a magpie). 

Discussion Links:

Discussion Links: BUCK (2011) | LIFE, ANIMATED (2016) | WEINER (2016) | CHICKEN PEOPLE (2016) | THE MOLE AGENT (2020) | MAN ON THE INSIDE (2024) | THE PERFECT NEIGHBOR (2025) | GATES OF HEAVEN (1978) | HARLAN COUNTY, USA (1976) | ABACUS: SMALL ENOUGH TO JAIL (2016) | WALTZ WITH BASHIR (2008) | CAPTURING THE FRIEDMANS (2003) | AN AMERICAN FAMILY (1973)

Timestamps:

Timestamps:

00:00 Sundance lobby: hugging THE PERFECT NEIGHBOR crew goodbye

02:42 Meet Julie Goldman & Chris Clements of Motto Pictures

04:13 Motto origin story and the greatest hits

07:07 The tuxedo pigeon returns (still a magpie, Keith)

08:04 Married and making movies: how they navigate both

09:12 Eight to ten projects at once—parallel action as philosophy

11:17 Creative producing: Zoom-ing into shoots, feeding notes live

15:28 Julie's sales brain meets Chris's creative obsession

17:35 The credit card feature: Brooklyn College's worst financial advice

19:01 Why producing called louder than directing

21:02 Owen Suskind wants a cheeseburger and three movies

22:08 Motto's unofficial motto: dragging filmmakers kicking and screaming

25:02 The light at the end of the tunnel for doc filmmaking

29:15 Documentary is defense—and championships are won reacting

31:19 The pivot moment every good doc goes through

36:08 "AI doesn't understand doubt"

39:03 The sculpture garden jam session

40:27 What Motto looks for: a new way to see the world

46:03 YouTube, platforms, and where distribution is headed

50:12 The Motto farm system: interns to A24

51:14 Advice for first-time feature filmmakers

55:04 Gateway docs: GATES OF HEAVEN and HARLAN COUNTY, USA

57:08 What they can't stop thinking about

59:32 The short: FOR SOME KIND OF REFUGE

01:01:12 Sponsors: Austin Film Society & The Long Time