Join Ben as he walks solo with Patrick Heaphy—a New York producer/director and music doc extraordinaire. Together they saunter across South Congress, past the Continental Club to Arlyn Studios. Pat’s the filmmaker behind CHARLEY CROCKETT: $10 COWBOY documentary—now screening at Austin Film Festival—but his career path runs through a Nancy Kerrigan vampire clip (the lav accessory, of course), the 1994 Olympics, and a 9/11 doc compiled from his day-of footage. We dig into the music documentary hustle: multi-cam concert films at the Ryman, working the Springsteen archives, and why answer-the-phone opportunity beats mere aspiration. Pat breaks down his company LCM247 (figure out what it means yourself), eating ramen for 26 odd years before festival recognition, and why the AI his mom uses is top of mind. Plus: Pat spots Will Ferrell’s eyeballs and uncovers Willie’s old haunt.

Discussion Links: WITNESS TO 9/11: IN THE SHADOWS OF GROUND ZERO (2020) | NEBRASKA CELEBRATION: WORDS AND MUSIC (2024) | CHARLEY CROCKETT: $10 COWBOY (2025)

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction and Camera Work

01:00 Patrick’s Background and Nancy Kerrigan Story

05:00 From Firefighter Family to Filmmaking

08:00 Post-Traumatic Stress Documentary

10:00 Selling Cars and Making Cable Commercials

12:00 Becoming the Music Guy

16:00 Musicians and Documentary Filmmakers

18:00 Charley Crockett’s $10 Cowboy Origin

20:00 Arlyn Studios and Willie’s Legacy

22:00 Americana Fest and Noah Kahan

24:00 Irish Connection and Multiple Hustles

26:00 9/11 Documentary

27:00 Lightning Round Begins

29:00 Charley Crockett Recording Process

33:00 Advice for Young Filmmakers 35:00 Gateway Drug Question

36:00 Dream Collaborators and AI